That is an interesting thought: On the one hand, it kinda defeats the purpose of having a computerized notebook, but on the other hand, it could make viewing more pleasant for some people.

NOTE: The page break will be for printing. It’ll force a new sheet of paper by sending the “page break” character/command to the printer.

Perhaps, for that particular purpose, you want to create a new Divider Page (Page > Divider Page), then add regular pages to that. When you need a new page, you create a new page for that divider page. That will keep those pages together under the one Divider Page, and still make each one manageable. Also, when you ‘turn’ to the next page, you’ll actually be going to a new page. I believe there are existing keyboard shortcuts for all these things.

Please see this thread:
http://forums.circusponies.com/categories/8/posts/11251

Since one of the top features of electronic outlines is the ability to collapse and expand at every level of the outline, I don’t see “fixed-length editable pages” ever being implemented. For printing and publishing, yes, but not for editable pages.

A feature I would like to see is the ability to promote/demote outlines and sections. (An “outline” is what is now called a “note page”. A section is a divider page and all the note pages it contains.)

(I would like to carry this even further, with the ability to promote/demote all the way along the ladder Notebooks/sections/note_pages (a/k/a outlines)/top-level_items/children, so if you have four files, each with sections, each section with outline pages, and each page with top-level items and children, you could demote the entire structure to one file with four sections, each of the former sections becomes an outline page, and each of the outline pages becomes a top-level item. In reverse, you could take a large Notebook w. seven sections and promote it to seven separate files, where each page in each former section becomes a section, and all the top-level items in each outline become a page in that section. This last one would solve the problem the OP presents. Somehow this idea has not perked the fingers of NoteBook’s programmers.)

As CareyB points out, the simple solution is to break the too-long page into many pages, using, for example, one page for each top-level item. One can put them all in a section titled the same as the original page.

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This endless page concept is not notebook-like at all! If the scrolling endless page is such a great idea, why don’t the sticky notes stick as you are forced to scroll? Enable the Page Break feature, please, on future iterations for those of us who thought we were buying a notebook…

You have to ask yourself what “notebook-like” means.

Is it notebook-like to be able to add notes near the top of the page and have those notes below move to the next page?

Is it notebook-like to be collapse an outline to show only top-level notes? or to then expand just one item of the page?

Is it notebook-like to be able to re-sort all the items on a page?

The point is that “notebook-like” is always a judgement call. You want some kind of page rollover feature. It is no more or less “notebook-like” than many of the features already in place.

Sticky Notes are new in v. 3 and as such have several problems similar to all newly released software. Shapes will “scroll with the page”—but note that here we come back to the “the page doesn’t have a fixed length” problem: if you add cells to the page, or collapse or expand cells, the shapes don’t move. This is, I suspect, a “hard” problem—and one Jayson is working on.

We have had many requests for this feature in NoteBook and the argument is supported on both sides. The idea of note taking software is that it can defy the laws that govern a real notebook with endless pages and editing abilities. This is true in all emulating software.

On the other hand this software is designed to fit the needs and personal preferences of everyone that uses it. Some people would prefer to view the contents as they would in a real notebook including myself in some instances.

We are aware of the demand for a page dividing feature or view option that can facilitate this, and know that we are working on a solution.

On another note, we are also aware on the demand for sticky notes to move with the outline as changes are made. Did you know that you can attach a sticky flag to a cell and it will move with that cell when scrolling as well as disappear when the cell is collapsed under a parent? Hold the option key as you drag the sticky flag over a cell. A triangle will appear on one side of the flag and the cell that it will attach to displays a dashed border. When you release the mouse, the flag will be attached.

Travis
Circus Ponies Software, Inc.

I’m glad you are working on a page dividing system, because this just isn’t working for me. I am writing a book on it, and want simply for it to act like a book, giving me a feel for individual pages, with page numbers and layout, like the book I will publish. I want it to act like the notebook it looks like. Printing a whole chapter on one long page doesn’t really work.

I love most everything else about it, but may have to go back to word to have it print and number pages like a real book. That sucks, I'm sad to say.

Please let me know when and if it changes. thanks

I endorse the page “split” concept. I appreciate the continuous feature when working with the electronic Notebook, yet when one prints, it becomes a paper Notebook, so needs to conform to printing standards of defined page length. That then invites the user input to define WHERE to split an electronic page into multiple printed pages.

I have just printed out a legal document and not been pleased with where the Notebook print driver splits the pages. It will require me to go back and “engineer” some sort of work-around, for what is now is not acceptable.

Any ideas on how best to proceed is MOST welcomed!

-James 540-408-6659

It’s a hassle, but you can go back and insert page breaks in each spot you want them. Works for printing, but not for viewing.

Based on Travis’ message above, this appears to be something they are attempting to sort out.

Good luck.