Font Problems

Font Problems

by hoffel - 01:29AM, Dec 01, 2003

I have two font-related problems in NoteBook:

1. Displayed fonts are jagged (as in ugly) sometimes. Usually only a few lines of text that I am working in get distorted and look plain awful. This happens on a G3 Powerbook and a G4 Powerbook on Panther and Jaguar with different fonts and different versions of NB.

2. With some fonts the lines on the NB pages do not adapt correctly, i.e. the text does not run on the lines, not even parallel. (Truetype vs. Type 1?)

Is anyone else experiencing this? It has been for me like that ever since I first tried NoteBook.

Hoffel.

cameraman

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04:54PM, Dec 01, 2003

It happens every once in a while then it goes away. I have never seen any discernible pattern to its occurrence.

Markus Böing

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09:38AM, Dec 02, 2003

Regarding point 2, you can adopt the line spacing. In Inspector select "Page Inspector" and then "Background". There you can configure line spacing to the height of first, smallest or tallest cell. Or you can use own spacing.

Have a try with height of tallest cell. This might help if you have multiple font sizes on a page.

HTH,
/Markus

Jayson

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11:51PM, Dec 04, 2003

quote:
1. Displayed fonts are jagged (as in ugly) sometimes. Usually only a few lines of text that I am working in get distorted and look plain awful. This happens on a G3 Powerbook and a G4 Powerbook on Panther and Jaguar with different fonts and different versions of NB.


There's a problem I've seen in Panther where the insertion point causes some lines of text within a cell to get redrawn, but the text object is not asking the page to redraw its background. The result is that the text gets darker and darker (as the anti-aliased text is drawn over itself again and again). Don't know if that's what you're seeing - you mentioned Jaguar as well.

quote:
2. With some fonts the lines on the NB pages do not adapt correctly, i.e. the text does not run on the lines, not even parallel. (Truetype vs. Type 1?)


Amazing that the text would not run parallel to the lines - I can't image how that would happen! I would love to see a screenshot of this. And of problem number one above. Please send to support@circusponies.com.

I'm also wondering if it has to do with the fonts you're using. Are they system fonts or ones you installed.

simon

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10:18AM, Dec 05, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Jayson Adams:

Amazing that the text would not run parallel to the lines - I can't image how that would happen! I would love to see a screenshot of this. And of problem number one above. Please send to support@circusponies.com.

I'm also wondering if it has to do with the fonts you're using. Are they system fonts or ones you installed.


Could this have something to do with FontBook? I've noticed, which has also been reported elsewhere, that disabling duplicate fonts can screw up font displays in other apps, even if a different font was used. For example: after Panther first came out I went through all my fonts in FontBook disabling the ones I didn't really like. (I think they were all ones I'd installed anyway) Afterwards text would look scrunched up in Safari for certain sites.

hoffel

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05:06PM, Dec 06, 2003

Jayson, I have mailed you some screenshots...

Jayson

Member

10:04PM, Dec 08, 2003

For those of you following this thread, the problem was as I described above: a line of text gets redrawn in the cell but the Cocoa text object doesn't ask NoteBook to redraw the background, so the anti-aliased text gets drawn on top of itself multiple times.

I need to report this bug to Apple and I need to see if there's a workaround.

zo219

Member

04:57PM, Dec 09, 2003

What I'm seeing - since the introduction of the wonderful font book with its ability to foul up everything - are cells where I am perhaps retyping the first line, so it will show the contents when I collapse the cell. .

and the font goes all wonky, below where I'm typing. But then when I'm done, it all settles down again. Wonky meaning sort of tiny, floating, strangely shadowed. . .

Anyway, this one's not permanent.

Zo

Jayson

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06:29PM, Dec 09, 2003

Please send me a screenshot of this next time it happens (Shift-Control-Cmd 4 to get the screenshot cross-hairs and place the results on the Clipboard).

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